Tink's rant was so good, that I just had to preserve it here for future reference.
Link goes to the original black five thread and contains my response.
"In a nut shell, your saying the feminists no longer care about their Afghan “sisters” because W is the one who “freed” them, so to speak?"
I'm saying, this particular group of women sacrificed their beliefs for politics.
(Silly me, I had always thought you based your politics ON your beliefs)
They sacrificed the Afghan women for their politics.
They sacrificed friends for their politics.
And trust me, it sucks to say that about people you care about.
Posted by: Tink | Nov 30, 2006 11:01:06 PM
Comment below written by: Tink it was always about themselves. Never about anyone else.
Ym, I never thought about it in that way. That's something I'm going to have to roll around in my head for a bit.
Such as these, are more concerned with the prevention of American error, than they are with the prevention of totalitarian INTENT.
Rich, I think you hit the nail on the head...it's frustrating. Very frustrating.
I read about people like Mr Halim, I think about the others that my hubs told me so much about, and it tears my heart out. There are some good people out there who deserve to make decisions about their own lives, who deserve to raise their children, who deserve peace..
It makes me want to take people like my (apparently) former friends, and shake them by the shoulders. What the hell has to happen to make them open their eyes and actually SEE what's at stake..instead of just pointing and saying "told ya we were doing it wrong"
I dunno, I'm rambling again...so I'll just say goodnight..
Posted by: Tink | Nov 30, 2006 11:23:10 PM
Comment below written by: Ymarsakar Your rambling is quite enjoyable.
You share your frustrations and pinpoint what you see as the source and problem. But you don't do it in a way that says "it is ALL about Me, Me, Me" and you aren't bitter about it to the extent that it corrodes my ears.
I like reading what you have written because you obviously honestly care and value integrity far more than selfishness and convenience. I respect that.
To add to Rich's excellent summarization, I'll just say that it also includes why the Left loves talking about the "moral high ground" and "moral purity" and "don't become the terroists". You've heard that rhetoric before, I believe. In fact, most blackfive readers should have heard that rhetoric if only about GitMo.
These people on the Left, the fake liberals I call them, don't want to get their hands dirty. Why should they, it is not the innocents and the downtrodden that are important, it is them, their comfort, their purity, and their convenience that is really important. They must have the moral high ground, because even a hint of guilt just kills them, just kills them. Too uncomfortable by far, getting their hands dirty.
Moral purity, the same as sexual purity that honor killings are supposed to get rid of. They just can't stand the violation of their honor, of their status, of their reputation in the eyes of Allah. It ain't about their children, wives, or whatever. It is about them and how much better it can make them feel to kill and hang rape victims.
They just can't stand the idea that anyone can require THEM, to actually sacrifice and get their hands dirty, to be called bad names or be thought of as less than pure and perfect. In a choice between saving the innocent by slaughtering the evil, or sitting it out in a nice comfy chair watching Oprra, I think you'll know which one they will choose.
They always talk about, "oh no, you can't execute terroists, we would be as bad as them". What they really mean is. "I've spent millions of dollars elevating my social consciousness above the peons, I'm not going to risk it now for some village idiots in Afghanistan that the slubs in GitMo have been killing. Let them kill each other, I have a manicure to go to."
Fake liberals. They talk about human dignity and liberty, but what they were really interested in was how to elevate their own ambitions and alleviate their own guilt. They believe that America is nigh invulnerable. That they can throw the Marine Corps at the problem if it ever came to their shores, or maybe they'll just take a private jet and go to Europe for a year or two while things calm down. They believe they are invulnerable, that every war is a "choice", an "elected war". Just like protecting innocents is an "elected choice" to the fake liberals. They get to choose who to protect and fight, why can't Bush? They think.
Posted by: Ymarsakar | Nov 30, 2006 11:46:14 PM